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		<title>By: Honey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Honey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 09:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Pablo - Well said!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Pablo &#8211; Well said!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Micah</title>
		<link>http://chicagoweekly.net/2009/11/18/whole-lotta-lotta/comment-page-1/#comment-17335</link>
		<dc:creator>Micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is so insanely maddening to me, a socialist, about Mao defenders like Pablo and Raymond Lotta is not that they want to contest the dumbed-down and often outright-false narratives that pass for history in our country and the world when it comes to leaders like Mao.  Indeed, a critical investigation into the things Mao really believed and wanted to achieve in China would do a lot of people good, if, for no other reason, than that it would reveal the mixed bag that is his legacy.  The same can be said about Trotsky, Lenin, Castro, etc.

But this is not the task that folks like Lotta set out to accomplish.  In fact, they take the opposite approach: they try to correct the lies that have been spread about Mao and create their own falsified historical record, one in which Mao was not a brutal dictator but a tireless defender of the working class whose record contains not a single blemish or act of tyranny.  Folks who are interested in building a just society should not be employing either approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is so insanely maddening to me, a socialist, about Mao defenders like Pablo and Raymond Lotta is not that they want to contest the dumbed-down and often outright-false narratives that pass for history in our country and the world when it comes to leaders like Mao.  Indeed, a critical investigation into the things Mao really believed and wanted to achieve in China would do a lot of people good, if, for no other reason, than that it would reveal the mixed bag that is his legacy.  The same can be said about Trotsky, Lenin, Castro, etc.</p>
<p>But this is not the task that folks like Lotta set out to accomplish.  In fact, they take the opposite approach: they try to correct the lies that have been spread about Mao and create their own falsified historical record, one in which Mao was not a brutal dictator but a tireless defender of the working class whose record contains not a single blemish or act of tyranny.  Folks who are interested in building a just society should not be employing either approach.</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 09:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Mao justified the murder of a SOMEWHAT SMALLER number of Chinese citizens&quot; is what this should say...my bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Mao justified the murder of a SOMEWHAT SMALLER number of Chinese citizens&#8221; is what this should say&#8230;my bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 07:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed---it is amazing what passes for intellectual rigor when it comes to communism. The above writer takes it as self-evident that &quot;Mao in fact did order the deaths of millions of people.&quot; Just keep repeating it with no need for citation or historical context: trust us! Mao was a mass murderer: end of story! 

The fact that this person is not some random blogger, but a writer for a daily paper of the nation&#039;s third largest city, just serves to prove Lotta&#039;s point. Nowhere does this author try to falsify the statistics laid out by Lotta in the speech---readily available in non-Marxist sources---that China&#039;s life expectancy more than doubled between 1949 and 1976, for example. Sigh... I guess the fastest and most widespread rise in life expectancy ever recorded just doesn&#039;t lend itself to smug anti-communist one-liners.

The author is not even compelled to respond on a serious level, except to attack the speech as &quot;vague and incomprehensible.&quot; What&#039;s incomprehensible is how they could sit through the whole lecture and still feel they have the license to trot out these ideologically charged claims...like (trust us) &quot;Mao justified the number of a SOMEWHAT SMALLER number of Chinese citizens.&quot; Let&#039;s see, the Chinese population at the time was several hundred million. So according to our bonafide China expert Cullen Seaton, some page in some book somewhere says Mao supported (ordered? directly caused?) the deaths of...somewhere less than half this many. Talk about &quot;vague and incomprehensible&quot;!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed&#8212;it is amazing what passes for intellectual rigor when it comes to communism. The above writer takes it as self-evident that &#8220;Mao in fact did order the deaths of millions of people.&#8221; Just keep repeating it with no need for citation or historical context: trust us! Mao was a mass murderer: end of story! </p>
<p>The fact that this person is not some random blogger, but a writer for a daily paper of the nation&#8217;s third largest city, just serves to prove Lotta&#8217;s point. Nowhere does this author try to falsify the statistics laid out by Lotta in the speech&#8212;readily available in non-Marxist sources&#8212;that China&#8217;s life expectancy more than doubled between 1949 and 1976, for example. Sigh&#8230; I guess the fastest and most widespread rise in life expectancy ever recorded just doesn&#8217;t lend itself to smug anti-communist one-liners.</p>
<p>The author is not even compelled to respond on a serious level, except to attack the speech as &#8220;vague and incomprehensible.&#8221; What&#8217;s incomprehensible is how they could sit through the whole lecture and still feel they have the license to trot out these ideologically charged claims&#8230;like (trust us) &#8220;Mao justified the number of a SOMEWHAT SMALLER number of Chinese citizens.&#8221; Let&#8217;s see, the Chinese population at the time was several hundred million. So according to our bonafide China expert Cullen Seaton, some page in some book somewhere says Mao supported (ordered? directly caused?) the deaths of&#8230;somewhere less than half this many. Talk about &#8220;vague and incomprehensible&#8221;!!</p>
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